Necro Minion Question(s) - Guild Wars Forums

Max27588 · May 01, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45

I have afew Questions about Necromancer Minions, (flesh golem, bone fiends ect)
First of all, what are they classed as? Allys? Creatures? Animals? Undead?
If so, what spells are they effected by? Shouts, Chants, Spirits ect?
Many thanks for your help.

Stiltzkin · May 01, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

They are somewhere between creature and ally. The only things that effect them are spells that directly target them. ex. Blood of the Master, Death Nova, Heal area, etc..

Coridan · May 01, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Minion

should answer your questions

Griff Mon · May 01, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00

I class them as minions. They are affected by everything but are especially susceptible to holy damage. The big difference is that with the exception of the flesh golem they leave no exploitable corpse. I have been told that they do not like monk heals and although the spells heal them, it accelerates their rate of degeneration. I have not confirmed this, but will not use Heal Area on them, better to use necro minion heals on them, like Blood of the Master.

Max27588 · May 01, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18

So does this mean they would be effected by Paragon Shouts/Chants?

Thomas.knbk · May 01, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by Max27588

So does this mean they would be effected by Paragon Shouts/Chants?

No. that was fixed in a recent update. Shouts and Chants no longer affect spirits and minions.

brennerv · May 01, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

I think minions still count as allies--that's why paragon shouts used to apply to them, because they used to target all allies. Then not long ago they changed it so all paragon shouts only affect party members, thus they no longer affect minions.

Max27588 · May 01, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

.....there goes my idea for a N/P MM.... damn you NCSoft

Anyway Thanks for clearing that up for me guys... hm.. what to make now tho.

Feminist Terrorist · May 01, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Griff Mon

I have been told that they do not like monk heals and although the spells heal them, it accelerates their rate of degeneration. I have not confirmed this, but will not use Heal Area on them, better to use necro minion heals on them, like Blood of the Master.

That is a complete and utter myth. I'm surprised it's still floating around out there.

Max27588 · May 02, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

So how about Warrior Shouts such as, "Watch Yourself"? and stuff?
What does/doesnt effect them? :S *recheck*

Griff Mon · May 02, 2007, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist

That is a complete and utter myth. I'm surprised it's still floating around out there.

Yay! I'm glad, just took a couple of people's word on it when I was in groups using Heal Area on my minions and they started to rag on me for doing it.

Squeeze that one back into my skill bar....

eightyfour-onesevenfive · May 03, 2007, 09:31 AM // 09:31

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Originally Posted by Max27588

So how about Warrior Shouts such as, "Watch Yourself"? and stuff?
What does/doesnt effect them? :S *recheck*

"Watch Yourself!" states it affects "party members" only. Minions are not party members but some special sort of allies. As such, they are affected by "Charge!", for example (at least the last time I checked).

Giga Strike · May 03, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53

i dont think they're affected by charge. whenever a person uses charge my groups minions always fall behind.

BladeDVD · May 03, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Charge does affect minions. I just tested it to confirm.

Minions will often take a second to get moving. And if they take too long they may be out of the range of a shout. That might be why yours are falling behind.

May 01, 2007, 01:45 PM // 13:45	#1
Max27588 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2007	Necro Minion Question(s) I have afew Questions about Necromancer Minions, (flesh golem, bone fiends ect) First of all, what are they classed as? Allys? Creatures? Animals? Undead? If so, what spells are they effected by? Shouts, Chants, Spirits ect? Many thanks for your help.

May 01, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33	#8
Max27588 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2007	.....there goes my idea for a N/P MM.... damn you NCSoft Anyway Thanks for clearing that up for me guys... hm.. what to make now tho. Last edited by Max27588; May 01, 2007 at 04:37 PM // 16:37..

May 02, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#10
Max27588 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2007	So how about Warrior Shouts such as, "Watch Yourself"? and stuff? What does/doesnt effect them? :S recheck Last edited by Max27588; May 02, 2007 at 08:46 PM // 20:46..

May 01, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57	#2
Stiltzkin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Aetna Guild: Dark Siderz Profession: Mo/Me	They are somewhere between creature and ally. The only things that effect them are spells that directly target them. ex. Blood of the Master, Death Nova, Heal area, etc..

May 01, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59	#3
Coridan Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: US Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG} Profession: W/	http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Minion should answer your questions

May 01, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00	#4
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	I class them as minions. They are affected by everything but are especially susceptible to holy damage. The big difference is that with the exception of the flesh golem they leave no exploitable corpse. I have been told that they do not like monk heals and although the spells heal them, it accelerates their rate of degeneration. I have not confirmed this, but will not use Heal Area on them, better to use necro minion heals on them, like Blood of the Master.

May 01, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18	#5
Max27588 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2007	So does this mean they would be effected by Paragon Shouts/Chants?

May 01, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30	#7
brennerv Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Armada of Heaven	I think minions still count as allies--that's why paragon shouts used to apply to them, because they used to target all allies. Then not long ago they changed it so all paragon shouts only affect party members, thus they no longer affect minions.

May 03, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53	#13
Giga Strike Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: stranded in vabbi this time Guild: None [N/A]	i dont think they're affected by charge. whenever a person uses charge my groups minions always fall behind.

May 03, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35	#14
BladeDVD Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hawaii Guild: Clan Of Elders Profession: N/	Charge does affect minions. I just tested it to confirm. Minions will often take a second to get moving. And if they take too long they may be out of the range of a shout. That might be why yours are falling behind.